Isabelle Meiring Interview Transcript
Nancy Rush:
Isabelle, welcome. I'm very excited to have you here today, and I cannot wait to share everything you and I've been talking about with our audience. Let me introduce you first by reading your bio. Isabelle is an author, metaphysic, I cannot say this word, meta physician, right?
Isabelle Meiring:
Physician, yeah. <Laugh>
Nancy Rush:
Teacher and leading mentor to phenomenal women ready for whole life liberation. For 14 years, she has mentored thought leaders, high achievers and true seekers into unparalleled levels of connection, love, wealth, and impact using her signature approach, the Gates of Heaven method. We definitely need to talk about that.
She is a celebrated author of two books, “The Wild Grail” and the “Encyclopedia of Energy,” with another two releasing this year. Isabelle believes the rise embodiment of liberated women will largely pave way for the new world ahead, and she dedicates her advanced teachings to leading women back into their innate blueprint.
That is very lovely. Well, let's pick up kind of where we were talking where we sort of left off. How would you define wealth for successful women? Because I think your perspective is probably quite different than what most people would think.
Isabelle Meiring:
Absolutely. Well, as I was saying before we hopped on the, the entire idea of prosperity and wealth has been so old world in terms of acquisition and in terms of climbing and doing and doing and more acquisition. And a lot of women kind of achieve that. Even the word achieve. It's just like there's some kind of a standard, there's some kind of a race, you know, achieve that through dishonoring their natural, thriving feminine blueprint. It's only like none of us stood a chance because, you know, the world was kind of structured that way with the manufactured patriarchal spaces that we have to function in. And we weren't given another option. We weren't taught this stuff, you know? And that wealth acquired was, if everything looks good, it is good. It's very superficial.
You know, it even comes down to the sense of the more I have, the more worthy I am, the more I have, the more successful I am, the more accolades I have, the more worth I have. So again, there was this, this incomplete like measuring this measuring stick that always turned the woman away from herself funny enough. And it became like an adornment that had no, no real sustenance. The word prosperity like I was saying that Latin derivative of the word prosper is grow. It's like everything you touch is fertile. It multiplies which is exactly what a woman is designed to do when she's in her authentic radiance, when she's in her authentic feminine, is anything that she allows to move through her, her ideas, her visions, her passions, her way of leading, she multiplies as long as she follows that, and it multiplies and it multiplies and it multiplies.
Like that's legacy. But what we found up until recently is a woman staying in this limited, strange facade of the measurement of worth and wealth and creating structures and systems that are not prosperous, that are anything but prosperous that actually kind of drain her of her life force. <Laugh>. Because, you know, she's not in that prosperous circuit. It's a lot that I do in the, the Gates of Heaven methodology. There’s this sense of why I would call a prosperous circuit or what the fifth gate of Heaven is. You know, when a woman moves through the process is when what you're doing feels like it's sustaining you simultaneously. There is no backlog. There is no wait time, there is no gap when what you are doing is simul simultaneously nourishing you. Like a zero point circuit. And that's how a feminine woman is designed to thrive. Yet we've got all this junk in the way these, all these stipulations that has her contracted instead of spacious. That has her putting on a certain role or function or, you know, space of, of leadership in a masculine role rather than a feminine. So there's no prosperity there.
There is money, but there is not prosperity, you know? I’m rambling <laugh>, how does that sound to you?
Nancy Rush:
No, no. You're not rambling. This is great. I love it and I think that this is so true and it touches on what I said earlier, which is I see so many women that are trying to embody this masculine version of themselves to fit in. I remember back in my corporate days showing up and feeling like I had to act like a man in order to be accepted and completely denying my feminine gifts and abilities for fear of judgment or non-acceptance and stuff. And so I want to touch on this point that you made of this lovely zero point that what you're doing is actually nourishing you and I, because I think that for so many people, and it doesn't matter if you're working in a corporate role, you have your own business, you're an entrepreneur, I think many people get into the grind. It's not nourishing. And probably likely from what you're saying is that they're disconnected from this feminine way of being. So let's explore this a little bit more. How can somebody, when they have that recognition that they're not embodying the feminine aspect of themselves in whatever it is that they're doing, how can they bring that in? How can they start to connect and allow it to nurture themselves?
Isabelle Meiring:
There are two beautiful prompts. And this is from over 14 years of developing various methodologies and processes that I eventually just condensed and simplified into the Gates of Heaven method. And the first two gates are two prompts that you can ask yourself, right? The first gate is defiance, which is usually whatever you're pushing away, what you're afraid of, what you don't want to happen. And the second gate is acquisition, which is pulling towards seeking, bringing in, oh my gosh, I'm getting goosebumps. Because so many women are in one or the other. They're kind of like ping ponging between these two states. And they're intense charges, defiance and acquisition. And, and most of us run on those, most women run on those. So defiance, when you're asking yourself or when you find yourself depleted, or next time you find yourself wanting to enter into a contract, or you've got a new project or a new client, or whatever the case may be ask yourself, what am I most defiant of in this moment?
And you'll be surprised by what comes forward. Because defiance, it takes a lot of energy out of you, and it's usually exhausting. Most women are kind of, it doesn't matter what income bracket they're at, whether they own their own business, whether they're entrepreneurs, whether they're stay-at-home moms. There is this don't want that is naturally within the being in the body that is not desirable. That it's not this, that it's not that. It's a lot of energy keeping that stuff at bay and not enticing and entertaining it. So you'll find something like, I am defiant to rest. I am defiant to trust. I am defiant to poverty. Like, I don't want to not make this milestone. I'm fearful of not making this milestone. I'm fearful of not, you know, breaking back for, you know the next big whatever the case may be.
So, the defiance is a big one. And it's really beautiful to ask yourself that. The second one is, what am I trying to acquire? And who is it for? And these are really raw and honest spaces that I bring my clients into that immediately kind of clears the fog for them. And they can understand they're not functioning in what really feels like would nurture them. They're just going through the motions. But what you don't know, you don't know. So, it's like this, it's a self-admittance. A lot of women come to me kind of in the burnout, on the cusp of burnout state. And without knowing it really, they just felt this kind of pull. And they're like, something's got to change <laugh>. Like, there is another way. And there is this, you know, when they're really honest with themselves, like, what am I trying to acquire?
And then really asking yourself, do I want that? Yes. Do I want that? And who is the I if I, if I do want that, who is the I, is that myself? Is it me? Does it feel like me? And you'll often notice that those two are keeping you out of doing things that really, truly feel like it nourishes you. For instance, if I have a woman that's got her own company with a large staff, or employee rate, I take her on a visualization and I make it a building, make the business or the organization a building of some kind. And I lead her into a room and I say, this room is your secret room. That's all the things that you would absolutely love to do in your business with your passion, with your vision, with your space of leadership.
And you tell me everything that's in there and how much of it feels like it's in the forefront. And why is it in there? Who are you in there and who are you out here? And why are they so contrasted? And very quickly through like these very simple prompts, obviously, in a nutshell, you find that women are going through the motions. They have the accolades, they have the bank balance, they have the accreditations and the experience, which I do believe a soul's chosen. You have to know one side to know the other. But they come to a point where they're like, oh my God, I'm tired of this and I really want to experience this sense of like rapture and passion and vision. And there's a stigma around feminine being soft.
Nancy Rush:
Weak.
Isabelle Meiring:
<Laugh>.
Nancy Rush:
Totally. <laugh>
Isabelle Meiring:
<Laugh>. I always find it so astounding because we did in one way or another, all believe that, right. The feminine is soft, it's weak, it's this, it's that. And a strong woman, oh my gosh. In the feminine embodiment space, it just like the Xena warrior, you can take on anything. You're super strong, you can wear all the hats you can and these badges of the warrior. And she is depleted. And even though it looks like she's doing all the things and success in all the right places, she feels depleted because what she is doing is still in this old one-way kind of masculine projected role. Oh my gosh. I could go on forever, but please, how is this sitting with you?
Nancy Rush:
I love that you used the words rapture and passion, because the second you said it, I'm like, what? Like rapture and passion in business. What is she talking about? But you're right, because the clients that come to me too, that burnout is ever present. They had a vision, they had a dream. They did all the things that they thought that they had to do to achieve it. And then it's somewhat empty because there's, there is no giving back. There is no filling the well within them. It's just depletion, depletion, depletion. So I love that you're talking about this and rapture and passion in business is possible. Rapture and passion in life is possible. I also love what you talked about, the strong woman, because I was in the military for five years, many, many, many years ago.
At the time I didn't understand, but I learned later that there's this whole perception that men make great soldiers, and they do. But it’s a little bit of a myth that women don't make good soldiers when in reality women actually are better at being soldiers than men because they bring their feminine gifts into the mix. They bring in the empathy and the compassion. It's not the softness necessarily. You know what I'm saying? The softness is present, but it's all those feminine traits that are coming in to create the balance. It's so lovely. So, I love what you said about the strong warrior woman. Because that's exactly what I think women need to embrace is this idea, not in an aggressive masculine way, but in a very sovereign, coming from a place of the sovereignty of being a queen. I would love to support women in really attaining that for themselves. Because to me, that's really the place of power, don't you think so?
Isabelle Meiring:
Absolutely. And it's, it's actually the fourth gate in the, in the five Gates of Heaven process. The fourth gate is <inaudible>.
Nancy Rush:
Oh, perfect. See, I didn't even know it, but I was already doing it. <Laugh>.
Isabelle Meiring:
Exactly. Because it's such a natural evolution. It's such a natural undoing and expanding. It's almost that emergence of, oh my gosh, I am ridiculously strong without even trying. It's the effort that depletes me. It's the go, go, go that depletes me. It's the trying to project myself in this unnatural charge way that depletes me.
Nancy Rush:
So true. So, I'm curious, what guidance do you have for, for women that don't want to play by those rules anymore. They don't want to be constantly efforting. But we're in a system that is still very patriarchal. It is what it is. So how can we navigate within that system and or break free of that system without feeling like we're out on the ledge all by ourselves?
Isabelle Meiring:
It's funny you use the ledge analogy, <laugh>.
Nancy Rush:
Oh, it's intentional <laugh>.
Isabelle Meiring:
Yeah, exactly. No, because I think there are, there are women that in some stages of their lives and their careers, whatever they may be, their roles that are absolutely ready to put down the roles, the masks, the trying. Then there are women that say they want to put down the roles, the masks, the trying, the pushing. And there's a big difference between want to and ready. And the reason I bring this up is because if the resistance toward expansion and authenticity and liberation in herself is, if that resistance is stronger than that innate desire to do, so, it's not going to be a nice journey. It is like jumping off a ledge. It's not some magic pill that you can just take. But the good news is that I want to say that, like I said, the restorative feminine leadership is accessing that place for herself.
Again, kind of walking herself back there and becoming more familiar with it. The not pushing, the not go, go, go. And the validation that she gets from that is huge. We really thrive, well, not thrive, but we are fueled by the validation that we get from the striving and the pushing and the effort and the working long hours and the building and the go, go, go. And this is where the output equals input does not apply. This is a lie. It's, it's almost like you have to ask what is the what quality of output are you are you allowing to go out of you into the world? Because that determines the quality of input. And if it is this kind of like halfhearted, or not hard at all, more mind, more body, just go, go, go.
Kind of, I'm just going through the motions. This is my role, this is my identity, this is what I do. That is the quality that you're going to continue receiving back. So, it's deciding the quality that you are willing to experience. And literally, when you think of it that way, you're like, what quality fabric dress would I like to wear if I had to choose between a designer dress that's like viscose or something that is just latex or polyester. I would obviously choose the former. And when you go, well, what is the quality of my life force when I'm doing something that I absolutely love, that's the way life is meant to feel. It's not supposed to be this like on my knees a hundred miles in the desert.
And then, then the things happen and, you know, then there's a promised land or paradise or giant bank account. That you respect and honor your quality of your energy over and above everything else. And when you realize that you've been kind of putting out misaligned kind of half-hearted quality and not truly what you want, and you're saying I'm doing this, or I'm drained, or I'm whatever, that's literally the quality that comes back. So, it's really understanding that the more the pushing is perpetuated, the more it is perpetuated.
Nancy Rush:
It totally makes sense. And I love that you're talking about it, because I myself have been caught up in the cycle of like, just do, do, do push, push, push to try to get to the end. But then even when you get to the end, you're like, oh, thank God that's over. But you're tired. You know, there isn't anything awesome about it other than you're like, yep, I can check the box. I got it done.
And so I love this idea of really like looking at the quality of the doing, and not just being blindly, automatic, right? Automatic mode to just get this stuff done. What I'm curious though is that that behavior, that doing behavior is so ingrained in our society. I mean, it's just part of it and if you're not a doer, then you're not actually often respected if you're not pushing constantly. This is what we talked about in corporate. And if you weren't showing up just like all the rest of the guys, performing and pushing, like they pushed, right? You weren't respected. And so how can we start to…I mean, obviously awareness is there, this is what we're talking about. But then from awareness, then, how do we bring ourselves back to this place of being more centered and not having to just automatically go into do, do, do.
Isabelle Meiring:
And autopilot. Okay, so firstly performance. And this is where I really believe that so much of the old systematic measuring sticks are crumbling. And that's why women are feeling so strange. Like now more than ever, it's kind of like they're straddling two worlds. Kind of like, they know that this doesn't feel right, but they're not quite here yet. Or, you know, it's like one foot here and one foot here. And this performance piece, it's like, we need a whole new dictionary. We're a whole new dictionary to really redefine. And when you think of the word performance, what are you doing? You're putting on a show, doing. <Laugh>.
You're putting on a show, you're playing a character, you're whatever the case may be. And then you get some applause if you did a good job, right, and this way of transaction. So I speak a lot about the transactional nature that is super limiting because when you're in the transactional nature of I perform, and then I get this, I do this, and then I get this, or I, you know, this tit for tat. Tit for tat is very limiting because you limit it at that quite literally at whatever you are, you know, moving toward or expect in return. And in transactional is that there can only be that when we put down the performing and go, okay, if I were to feel the, the quality of my energy, right? When you're performing, think about the characteristics of it.
How does it make your body feel? Like, does it feel, you know, what is it? Does it feel energizing? Does it feel draining? Does it feel like a man? Does it feel like a woman? Does it feel like you, does it feel like, you know, think about characteristic? Does it feel grimy? Does it feel flowery? Does it feel whatever? Really zone into what that performance feels like. And if that's always not feeling good, then you're perpetuating. For whatever you are, are getting in return now and putting down the performance piece, the need to perform, which is ingrained in many women and men. I mean, this is a human thing. The performance piece, the gold stars, the accolades, the accomplishments, you get this in return for this You are validated when you do, this situation keeps us in that place. And it's about examining, okay, if I were not to step onto this stage or approach this moment in a performing energy, who would I be? What would I be, what would I do? Quite literally. And that's where a lot of women actually glitch.
Nancy Rush:
I was going to say. It's like, I don't think if I asked that question, I don't even know if they would be able to answer it. Right?
Isabelle Meiring:
Yeah. So there's a, there's a massive like unplugging that happens halfway through the Gates of Heaven process because it's a void space where they're like, oh my God, I'm not doing this for validation and I'm not doing it for accomplishment. I'm not defying and I'm not acquiring. And then all of a sudden we create all the space in her body, and she begins experiencing herself as this really natural resonant channel that she is. And I, I try and refrain from using the word channel, but what else are we going to say? And then she starts meeting herself again and feeling into, oh my God, this feels good. And that doesn't, and this feels amazing, and that doesn't, and it's like the amount of project organizations, movements, offers like that have been created from a woman in that space are mind blowing. Women that feel like they've reached the peak of their career, down here in comparison to what we open up when we get into that space. But it requires that switch off <laugh>. Like that glitch.
Nancy Rush:
So the word that's coming to mind as you're talking about this is rebellion. And we talked about rebellion very early on <laugh>. But you know, I'd love for you to talk a little bit about it, because this is a little bit to go through this process and really come into coherence with who you really, truly are, authentically as a sovereign being. This does require a little bit of a rebellious nature, don't you think?
Isabelle Meiring:
Absolutely. There is, I think there is a natural rebel in every woman. I don't think a woman would be born into this world at this time if she weren't. At least a little bit, because we are here in this strange society. <laugh>.
Nancy Rush:
It's a good way to describe it.
Isabelle Meiring:
One way or another. You know, they call it the divine rebel. However, as helpful as the rebel is, it's one of the first things that we really look at releasing when a woman walks through my door. There is that necessary need for that rebellion, which is also a lot of what a lot of women base their entrepreneurship on. Funny enough, it's one of the cornerstones that are like part of their foundation that they don't realize. I mean, they didn't want to be in a fricking office. They didn't want to be in on someone else's clock. They didn't want to or they wanted to show their family, look what I can do. So it's part of that defiance piece, and it's has a charge of its own.
But what you're really doing is, it's not rebelling. It's creating, there's a big difference. There are a lot of women out there that preach a lot of, what's the word? Opposition, right? So opposition or rebellion toward certain things. And I'm like, but that's a lot of energy that's wasted <laugh> on that. And instead, it's like standing, watching a burning building. Do you want to save the building? Or if you just turn your attention 45 degrees to this side, you'll see the green open meadow with building materials and everything you could possibly need times a billion. Do you go, do you jump in there or do you want to keep staring at the burning building <laugh>, what do you do, <laugh>?
Nancy Rush:
I would hands down choose the meadow. No problem.
Isabelle Meiring:
Yeah. Meadow, thank you. <Laugh>. And that's it. It requires bravery, though. Bravery. Bravery is a big one.
Nancy Rush:
I kind of feel like it's rebellion gives you the spark to kind of get to the place where you're like, this isn't working anymore. I need something different. But then you have to let the rebellion go because the rebellion is anchored in resistance and it's anchored in potentially even anger for a lot of women. I think there's a lot of women out there that are angry about where they are in life that they've worked, had to work so hard. You know, when it, I, when I hear people talking about the glass ceiling, it's like glass. That is something that, you know, that, that's it. I don't even know how to comment on that, but it's like the glass ceiling is there because we perpetuate the myth of the glass ceiling, don't you think?
Isabelle Meiring:
Yes, exactly. You’re very good at putting things in concise points. Me, not so much. That's why I write <laugh>, my books so much. But that I wanted to speak to that quickly out of personal experience that I've had to, well, not had to, it was like chose to, but was moved to reframe, rebuild, recreate my movement and business. Well, company twice in 14 years, big time. And the most recent time was due to this strange glass ceiling, the exact thing that I taught against because I started playing. So if you can imagine this ceiling, right? Ceiling, like patriarchal type systems, even in the feminine leadership world. True. It's just that, that, yeah. Very. okay, we're not going to get into that too much, but let's just say there's that grid over there, that way of being, that do, do, do, go, go, go.
And I always taught women it was this life force coming down and out into this space because that's how we uplift. Right? What happened was, slowly but surely once I had achieved seven figure status for a good long time. And then with, without any kind of without business strategies and mentors, business mentors, I had a lot of facilitators, a lot of colleagues, a lot of spiritual mentors that assisted me. But businesswise, no. Then I was told continuously by this grant, this industry, everything, and their uncle and their aunt and their dogs that I needed XYZ. Right? Cool. And even very caring dear colleagues and friends in the professional industry. And so I did. And the more I listened and didn't realize that what was going on was this was shutting down and I was perpetuating this.
I was no longer bringing this down and out, but I was receiving like this and perpetuating this glass ceiling. And that was a huge, a huge realization kind of knowing. If you're taking in from the exact same systematic matrix or, or way of being, if you're taking in and just regurgitating that and trying to work with that, it's going to perpetuate it. That's it. And the entire point is lifting that glass ceiling for many others as possible. And it doesn't come from, it comes from this, you know? Does that, does that make sense?
Nancy Rush:
It totally makes sense. And it's so funny…
Isabelle Meiring:
I need a presentation screen. <Laugh>.
Nancy Rush:
Right. <Laugh>. But it's like, as you're talking about it, just that motion of from here to here, energetically feels so different because you're right. We're stuck in that perpetual cycle of expending effort and then trying to receive, but it's very stuck at that particular level.
So I think that's really amazing. And I think this may link into the, the question I wanted to ask you. You mentioned in what you submitted around this whole idea of like, whole life liberation. What does that mean? I'm really curious.
Isabelle Meiring:
Well, the way that I teach and mentor and why, I mean, it's just across the board, we cannot really, and again, this is perception from their own aperture or perception. But I believe the way you do one thing is the way you do all things and your relationship with one thing is your relationship with all things. So when a woman comes to me, for instance, sometimes it's for a certain arena. Meanwhile, obviously everything is a ripple effect. I teach a lot about the relationship with her reality, like a partner. Like you can see it as stories. You can see it as Gabby Bernstein’s Spirit's Got Your Back, or the Universe Has Your Back. That kind of thing but like a thousand feet deeper.
Really embodying it and experiencing it where the relationship you have with your business, your system, your clients, your vision, your five-year plan, your tenure plan, your staff, your whatever the case, the relationship you have with your kids or your grandkids, or your partner, it goes on and on and on. This is your relationship with life. You are one being, and the being does not compartmentalize. She is continually kind of sending out her magnet, or not magnet, her happy or sad her, whatever her state may be. But her innate imprint of what is life's relationship with her and her relationship with life is a big, big, big part of what I teach when it comes to that Gate of Heaven process. I call it being a bride to life. Because most <laugh>, and that is whole life. It's whole life liberation because you become so synergistic with life and how it is working with you continuously. And not just on a cerebral conceptual level, it's the embodiment, the sensation in her body and who she feels she is, how life treats her. And you can imagine how things shift in every single arena when she's super conscious of the way she is treating life and how life is treating her.
And if, if we can go back to the beginning, almost full circle, if you can imagine a woman that's in defiance or acquisition where most people are kind of stopping things from happening and then making things happen, or in order to gain when she steps out of that, it's like, oh, there is no cap now. And I'm very, very certain of the fact that I'm creating this and this is how life treats me, because I'm not trying to extract, I'm not trying to perform. So it is whole life liberation situation. <Laugh>.
Nancy Rush:
Yeah. No, it sounds amazing.
Isabelle Meiring:
One being. It’s like if we had, that's what makes me the different hats, right? The different roles. And it's like, are you going to slice yourself up into four? No, you can't do that unfortunately. You're one being. And the more we do the non-com compartmentalization, the more useful the woman actually feels. And it comes down to authenticity again.
Nancy Rush:
I think it's interesting you brought up the compartmentalization, because I think many people do compartmentalize. It's sort of like, this is who I am at work. This is who I am at home, this is who I am in my social setting. And like you said, it's the same person just putting on different facades, which isn't really embodying the authenticity.
Isabelle Meiring:
I saw a study a few months ago, I cannot remember where I did, but I will try and cite it if I can find it. And amongst, I think it was 25,000 different participants, they were doing measurements of the electromagnetic energy field of certain emotions. And you know how people always say the highest charge that can be more sustainable or attainable is love. That’s the thing. That’s what people say. But it turns out what was even higher than that, that could be sustained for longer periods of time is the frequency of authenticity.
Nancy Rush:
Cool.
Isabelle Meiring:
And it is quite literally your superpower. We’ve been hearing this for decades. Authenticity is your superpower. You do this thing, but what happens when you're trying to be authentic, when you're like, I can have this identity, or this is who I'm, and this is what I'm going to, it's like, it's completely defeats the purpose again. And it's more like you need to melt, truly melt into who you be and can you hold, can you hold that much compassion for yourself, that much grace, that much acceptance to, to stand in that
Nancy Rush:
I was going to add to that and say, you have to be willing to let go of what other people think, what other people judge, whatever people think that you should be. You really have to become your own sovereign being and the need for that external validation that goes away. Because you're truly representing who you are authentically. And first of all, that just feels like relief to me. You know, that I could just show up and just be who I'm, and I may not be for everybody, but that's okay. It doesn't matter.
Isabelle Meiring:
That is the point. And we hear it a lot. We hear it a lot. But for instance, validation and having that need fall away, that sense of that acquisition, like that gate too. You don't feel that need for validation or enacting that unconscious need for validation anymore when you are quite literally feeling so filled by what you are being and doing. Very big difference. Like one feels contracting, one feels really spacious and relieving. So one does replace the other <laugh> and it's an exchange that we're super happy to have, you know?
Nancy Rush:
Yeah. No, I would much rather have that than sort of continuing to embody all of that other stuff that just feels icky, icky, icky <laugh>.
Isabelle Meiring:
It's true. And I mean, a woman right now, and it's not a feminism thing, it's just, I really believe that many of us are here as a bridge. That's why we feel like we've got feed into very different worlds. And the things that we are here to authentically lead in is showing the way for others. We cannot wait for someone else to do it, unfortunately. As nice as it can be to say, oh, she's done it or she's done it, you know, we've all got our own versions of it. But we must go first. And that's the freedom of it.
Nancy Rush:
Well, and that's where the part that you talked about bravery shows up for me because you do have to have courage to be willing to step into being a disruptor of these old patterns, right?
Isabelle Meiring:
Yeah, absolutely.
And, creating true prosperity, right? True prosperity that is going to live on and on and on and on. It's not going to kill you. You know, <laugh> you're not going to go for retirement because you just love it so much that you wish you could stay for another 300 years. <Laugh>, <laugh>. What I said to my clients, I'm like, okay, we're going to change. We're going to change everything that you are going to just fall in love and you're going to want to stay here for another 300 years. Because you don't want to retire, you don't want to stop. You don't want to, you know. Because it feels that good. <laugh>,
Nancy Rush:
Well this has been a fantastic conversation. I just love everything that you've talked about and you're amazing. I'd love to give you a couple of minutes to just talk about your free gift because it sounds really great.
Isabelle Meiring:
Oh, the Overflow. It's a three part immersion called Overflow: A Love Greater Than You Know, and it actually walks through the three stages. So that's not the Gates of Heaven process, but it's three stages of moving from a transactional nature into a more co-creative space with your life, applying to business, applying to relationships, applying to creative projects, leadership. So it's really, really brilliant at walking a woman through opening up to that new option, new way of being. So that's Overflow, the three day piece. You can binge them though, all three in a row because they're all there <laugh>.
Nancy Rush:
That sounds really cool. And I love that you pointed out, that it doesn't just affect who you are in business, it affects every aspect of your life. You know, obviously coming back to the earlier conversation about being that you know how you're showing up, you're showing up in all aspects of your life, right? So I think that's a lovely gift. I think people will really enjoy that.
Isabelle Meiring:
Thank you.
Nancy Rush:
So the, the free gift that I'm offering is I'm going to be doing a three day masterclass on the ancient art of the 9-Star Ki. I don't know if you've ever heard of that system, but it's incredibly powerful, but yet very simple way for people to discover their inner blueprint. And what I mean by that is that they get greater awareness of who they are authentically, who, how they show up in the world, what their patterns and themes might be. Their understanding their strengths and their weaknesses better. And what I love about it is it gives us such phenomenal context for understanding other people in our life. And really, but in a loving, compassionate way. And you get greater understanding of understanding why somebody might respond to a conversation that you're having with them in this particular way. So that's what I'm going to be teaching for the, for the three days. And like I always say, just because it's me, there's going to be some coaching and some intuitive insights mixed in there, so it's going to be super fun. <Laugh>
Isabelle Meiring:
Beautiful. That sounds amazing.
Nancy Rush:
Yeah, I think it's going to be great. It's a passion of mine. I've, I've used the system for years and I personally can't believe it's not more mainstream than it is.
Isabelle Meiring:
It's for those with, with, with hearts to receive and ears to hear.
Nancy Rush:
Exactly. Well, this has been lovely. Thank you so much for being here.
Isabelle Meiring:
Thank you so much, Nancy.
