Kimberly Maska Interview Transcript
Nancy Rush:
Welcome Kimberly. I'm super excited to have you with us once again to show all of your amazing information that you have for other entrepreneurs out there. Let me introduce you by reading your bio first. Kimberly is the visionary CEO and founder of Spiritual Biz and a two-time international bestselling author. Before diving into the world of spiritual entrepreneurship, she spent eight years on Wall Street where she co-created a $165 million dollar company with eight partners for the past decade. She's dedicated her life to empowering spiritual entrepreneurs to reach new heights and build true wealth on all levels.
Kimberly possesses a unique, intuitive gift that allows her to see the true essence of a business and identify what needs to be adjusted both energetically and in the tangible world. That's awesome. By reshaping the vibration of companies and their teams, she helps entrepreneurs create thriving high frequency businesses that shift consciousness on this planet.
When she's not revolutionizing businesses or managing Zenith, the only social media marketing agency created for lightworkers by lightworkers, you'll find her spending time with her amazing husband Daniel, and their adorable pug Bogart.
I love that name. Enjoying life's simple pleasures. I just have to say, most people send their bios and it's all very business oriented, I love that you weave the personal aspect in there, because that is so important. It's such an essential part of life to embrace all aspects. And Bogart just sounds adorable, he just does.
Kimberly Maska:
He is adorable! <Laugh>.
Nancy Rush:
That's awesome. To jump in, you embody this concept called the Prosperity Vortex, and I'd like you to share with our audience what that means?
Kimberly Maska:
Absolutely. I love the Prosperity Vortex because a lot of times we talk about money, we're like money and abundance and lots of manifest and that's lovely and that's a big part of it. But for me, the Prosperity Vortex is the balance of it all. It's mind, body, and spirit. We can't be sick and have a lot of money, that doesn't work, and we can't be unconscious and angry all the time and have a lot of money. That doesn't work. There has to be this balance of mind, body, and spirit. So, how do we encompass all of that so we can truly thrive? If we're out of balance in any of those, we're not thriving. If we're in scarcity, we're not feeling well, it doesn't work. So, how do we bring it all together so that the balance of it all is what's super important for me.
Nancy Rush:
I think that's really great too because I know that in my work and my life, having all aspects of life all together rather than just focusing on the business to the exclusion of everything else produces so much more results. And I'm so much happier <laugh>. So, I love that you've created this concept here. You asked an interesting question when you submitted them, and I'm curious to hear what your response is. You said, “why is money considered the greatest test of spiritual strength?” Please illuminate that for me because I'm really curious about it.
Kimberly Maska:
This is a big trigger for people. A lot of times in the spiritual world they want to get rid of money or we don't need money. And I'm like, Ooh, that's just spiritual bypassing because it's energy. It's energy like anything else. So, we can't say that God, Source, Intelligence, the Creator of the all, whatever the word is you're using, we can't say it's in everything, but it's not in money. So, we have to acknowledge that the energy of money has a divine essence to it. When I say it's the greatest test, it's because we don't know what we're living in. We look at this world, we think we know what it is, we don't really know. We just know sometimes things don't feel right and are not in alignment. We don't know what this world is.
And yet, we can get so triggered and upset about something called money that's in a bank account that's literally flies through the ether. We don't even touch it hardly anymore. We get really riled up and emotional about money. People are so emotional about money. It's energy. There's no need to be emotional about it. So, if we say that Source always has our back and that we're connected with Source and we trust Source, then even when our bank account is low, we shouldn't panic because we trust. The minute we fall into scarcity, or the minute we get upset and emotional about money, we've disconnected from Source. We're no longer trusting. We're now looking in the 3D world, we're like, there's no money in that account. We get really upset and emotional. But if we can come back to center, to the truth of who we are and in that connection with Source, then we can just relax. Because it's just a game. The whole thing is a game. This whole time in this planet is a game. Stepping into the game of money makes it more fun. Then you connect with Source, and you say, okay, bank account looks something today, so let's have some fun. Where's it going to come from? Then you hand it over to Source and allow yourself to play in this universe versus getting so riled up and emotional about it.
Nancy Rush:
I can see why that you would say that that's triggering because it is a little triggering. Thinking about this idea that if you just trust that the universe has your back, that you're connected to Source, and that the money will flow in. So, I'm curious, I know for me not tipping into the scarcity or deprivation mindset, particularly when the business has been under stress, that's been a challenge. So, how can people connect to Source to begin with and hold that space, that energy that they will be provided for? And this is just a temporary circumstance. If the bank account is low, how do they foster that? Then how do they hold onto it?
Kimberly Maska:
I think our connection with Source is something we have to be nurturing every day. So, we can't just be, I'm in scarcity today Source, where are you? No one likes that emergency phone call <laugh>, no matter who it is. So, we want to make sure we have that nurturing all the time so when the situation happens, the more connected we are, the less inferior we are. If we're nurturing the relationship with Source and nurturing our relationship with money as well, because there's a relationship there, then when we're saying something, we can look at it different. It's a different perspective. It's like our prosperity consciousness expands around that moment. And we look and we are like, that's really interesting that this is happening. What am I supposed to do? And I'll do that. I'll have a situation, say there's a certain program I'm launching or funnel I run, and I expect certain results. Then all of a sudden, my results are different. So, I always go, that's really interesting. I step back, meditate on it a little bit, and then I just ask Source. I'm like, all right, this is all in your hands anyways, show me what I'm supposed to do. And then I'll get some new amazing idea within the next 48 hours. Once I implement that, then everything shifts. So, I'm constantly paying attention to where I'm being guided and try not to force too much, we have a bad habit of that. We've been conditioned to really force things in the 3D world. When we force, for me, it never works. It just doesn't work. Or, if it works a little bit, it feels really uncomfortable. So, I really try to step back and go, okay, what am I supposed to do? And just allow it to unfold and receive the bread count crumbs that I'm getting. Someone will say something, then someone will say the same thing. And I had this happen just this yesterday and the day before something was going on, and I said, all right, so this is in your hands. You have to show me what you want me to do next. And then I had three things pop in, like boom, boom, boom, with the same conversation with three different people. And I was like, oh, that's what I'm supposed to do. <Laugh>.
Nancy Rush:
That's fantastic. I really think that this is so important what you're talking about, this idea that particularly for entrepreneurs, I think we think we're always going in alone. That it's all on our shoulders and then all that efforting, we have to do more marketing, we have to do more outreach, we have to make more sales calls. And in that whole, everything that I just described, it's like, where's the connection to Source? Because truly we are co-creating when we're connected. We are co-creating it. We're not all by ourselves. We actually have a support system, whether we're aware of it or not. So, I think it's fantastic that you're bringing this up. You mentioned something about 3D, and we've spoken before, and you've mentioned this idea of concept of 3D money versus 5D money. Can you help us understand what that means and how do you know when you're embodying 5D money versus 3D money?
Kimberly Maska:
This all comes back to that Prosperity Vortex idea. So, the 3D money is the money we get in a paycheck. The money that someone hands us that's in the account, we're looking at it, we're like, there it is. And we've been very conditioned to think that if we go get a job, we'll get handed a paycheck. And that's how we make money. That's the conditioning we receive. But when we can step back from that and start to play with money, because it is energy and we can align ourselves with the truth through who we are, which is what this connection with Source, then we can see money differently. Then we get to play, and we get to say, well, where else can money come from? And we look for the inspiration and the idea that we can take action on to then create money.
It probably is not your dollars for time situation like we've been conditioned. It'll be an idea and it could be something simple and then it can make a lot of money. Maybe it's some sort of widget, some sort of thing. You get this idea and then, it all flows in and you're like, wow, that was just one idea and one product, and it created all this abundance flowing in. So, when we're in the 5D mode, it's more about creating it, talking about the difference between earning money and creating money. So, earning money is that paycheck where someone's handed it to you and creating money is getting inspiration, creating a new program, a new product, a new opportunity. And then that opportunity turns into more abundance. It's not dollars for time, it's your creativity. You're just doing an energy exchange with the universe.
Nancy Rush:
So, I had somebody describe something similar to me where they talked about it as when we're creating, we're very much in this artist role. If you think about it, we have to be the manager in our business and then we have to be the entrepreneur, which is basically entrepreneurs responsible for bringing money into the business. But then there's the artist. So, I'm curious, when you're in that creative space and you're allowing the inspiration to flow through where the client in the middle of that, are you creating with them in mind? Or are you creating, because that's the direction that you're getting those nudges or however you want to classify it?
Kimberly Maska:
For me personally, it's more of a nudge. I guess my client is so much a part of who I am and what I do anyways. I've been a spiritual business coach for a decade. We've got the agency piece of it. That's just who I am and how I think. So, I think I'm already in alignment with anything that comes in, it’s going to be for that client. So, it's pretty easy for me. I would think that if you are in the more beginning stages of a business and you're trying to figure out who is that client, then that might be a little bit harder to decipher. You might get an idea. And then I find what happens is someone is stuck on the idea of who their client should be, even though it might not actually be what I call your sole tribe. So, they get stuck on this idea of who the client should be. Source might be delivering ideas over here and you're like, but they don't add up. There's usually a bit of a disconnect. And that's probably because this client is not your sole tribe. It's who you think you should be serving. But it's not actually the deep, intimate soul connection that I like to help my clients uncover so that they're really living their purpose.
Nancy Rush:
That's lovely. Is there a way for somebody to, I mean of course having a mentor to guide you through the process is awesome and, and often essential. But is there a way for somebody that's going through it alone right now for them to really connect with the sole tribe? Because you're absolutely right. We can have a perception of who we think we're here to serve. And the universe is kind of like, nope, it's actually this over here. So, how can they facilitate that for themselves?
Kimberly Maska:
I'll take you through a really quick thing that I do with my clients and it's much more in depth. The overview of it is that your soul tribe is a past version of you and their version of you. The minute you said, I can't take this anymore, as you were going through your awakening, because you want them in a transition mode. So, it's not you now, because you're probably pretty happy and you're working on your business and getting all sorts of ideas, but it's you like 10 or 15 steps behind. They're behind you so that you know them. So, here's where I find people get stuck; they'll have a modality, they'll say, I am a hypnotherapist, or I'm a theta healer, or whatever it is. And then that's who they think that they're serving people with that modality.
But the modality is just a tool in the toolbox. Plus when you market your modality, you get very pigeonholed. Your pricing is like everybody else’s and they're expecting you to do the same thing. So, you don't stand out from anybody else. So, the modalities are awesome, they are amazing, all of them, but they're just a tool in your toolbox. You're going to use that tool to connect with your soul tribe that has this deep, intimate, personal connection with you. And it's deeply intimate and personal. They are 10 steps behind you and you've had the same experience. And when you can tie that together, it becomes like, oh. So, you stop selling the modality of what you do, but you start selling the transformation to your soul tribe. And that change makes it a huge shift. And that's when your business goes from kind of like chugging along to actually humming because you're speaking to the right people.
Nancy Rush:
That's great. And I think too that people who end up getting focused on the modalities, they're focused on the how, which truthfully, most people don't care so much about the how, they care about the results. I'm in this situation that's causing these, for lack of a better term, pain points or, issues in my life. And so I'm looking for the person that has the solution. And it's almost like the modality is immaterial. So, I think that’s a lesson I learned very early on. I did lead with my modalities for sure. I classified myself as an energy clearer for many years until I finally clued in and realized that I was not the sum total of solely that. And that people didn't even understand what it was. So, that's fantastic advice. So, how does somebody understand if they're really embodying this prosperity vortex, that they're connected with Source or if they're actually blocking it from happening?
Kimberly Maska:
We have to remember our miracles are happening all the time. We're just blocking them from happening. So, we call it a miracle. And really the miracle is that we released our resistance to what's supposed to happen <laugh>. So, when we're in the prosperity vortex, it's just flow, it's divine flow. You have an idea, you get inspiration, you'll think of something and two days later it appears. Or you ask Source for an answer to something and then it gets delivered. And that's exactly what happened to me this past weekend. On Sunday, I asked for something and then boom, boom, boom, the conversation showed up without me initiating anything. I knew exactly what I needed to hear. I was like, oh, I'm in this position right now because I'm supposed to hear this information. And you'll just know. You can feel it. You can feel when you're in divine flow because you're not stressed and you're not worried and you're not in scarcity. You're just like, oh, this is really interesting. And even if there's an instant moment of scarcity around something, which can happen to all of us, happens to me too. Well then you go, oh, wait, wait, wait. That's right. We don't even know what this world is right now. I'm handing this over to Source, ask the question and get into alignment and allow it to flow in.
Nancy Rush:
This concept of, I think of it as surrendering to Source, essentially. It's like I'm confronted with this particular situation. Maybe the bank account is low, and then my job is simply to surrender it and ask for inspiration, the guidance. Is that kind of what you're talking about?
Kimberly Maska:
Yes, we just have to let go. We want to control so much. As humans, we constantly want to control. We think that's how we're supposed to get through life is let me control it. And if we can relinquish the control and just allow, and I don't mean to the point where people are pushing you around. So, that's where people get all weird about that. They're like, well, but what if this happens? I'm like, no, no. What I'm talking about is just the control and allowing Source to take over, not necessarily other people, but just an awareness. And the more connected we are, the more we know when it's a right choice or a wrong choice. For me, I just have a deep, deep knowing. I know when something is supposed to happen or what decision I'm supposed to make. I don't hem and haw about much in my life because I just know. So, you've got to get to that point of that deep knowing. And it helps doing your Human Design around that too. We all have a different way of knowing depending on what we are. And I am by no means an expert in it, but I've done enough to understand and to look at my clients and go, oh, what's your Human Design? Because we react differently based off of our core design as humans.
Nancy Rush:
I think that's so true. It reminds me of when I was in corporate and we would do the Myers-Briggs test or some insights or something that essentially was helping to bring that knowledge, that understanding of how you're wired and step in your patterns. And I would suspect that within those patterns you probably identify where people are going to have issues when, in terms of this process. Because what you're really talking about is cultivating this relationship with source and then really cultivating the trust of it so that you're never doing this all alone. I don't know if you've had this experience, but when I was growing up, I was raised Catholic and then at some point I was like, yeah, that's not for me anymore because I didn't appreciate the structure, it didn't work for me. But, for the people that are out there that they're like, I have a connection to Source. I think I'm connected to Source. How can they strengthen that? How can they really cultivate that?
Kimberly Maska:
That’s a great question. And this is probably one of the most, I would say, challenging things for all of us because we've been conditioned, again, with the dogma of what is Source. What happens is we start looking outside of ourselves. What is it? Is it over here? We go to a church, and we look up at the altar and we see the cross and we're like, there it is. And it's like, no <laugh>. No, that's not it. I would say that the greatest connection to Source is the greatest connection to yourself.
Understanding yourself because Source is flowing through us. If we can be more connected to who we are and really doing the work and being honest with ourselves about who we are and honest with ourselves about the shadow work that needs to happen and the healing that needs to occur, it's in that understanding that creates the connection. Because otherwise we're looking outside of ourselves, but it's not outside of us. It's within us. And that's the work and that's the work people don't want to do. And I get it. It's hard. I take my clients through the whole process and you know, I commend them. I'm like, this is work. This is serious stuff. If you want to be a spiritual coach to be an integrity, you have to be doing the work. You can't just say, I want to create a business and have it all fluffy. I'm like, no, you have to be doing the work to be in integrity. And it's not always fun, but it's amazing on the other side. But there's lessons and things that need to be healed that will all come up. That to me is the knowing of Source is really knowing yourself.
Nancy Rush:
That's beautiful. And I think it's so funny that you said that it's hard work, but you know, you need to do it <laugh>. And I was like, there have been moments where I'm like, did I really sign up for this? But the thing is, it's so rich on the other side and then that profound healing that occurs. I think it's made me a much better person in terms of when I work with my clients because I just said to a client the other day, because I'm dealing with some situations, I'm like, well, the universe is calling me to walk my talk. And you have to walk the talk, so to speak. I think too that to your point, you know, church works for some people and for others it doesn't. In my mind it almost doesn't really matter the method. It matters that you're actively cultivating that connection. Because that co-creative process is so much richer than just doing it all alone.
Kimberly Maska:
Yes. And it is again, that deep understanding. My husband is in the middle of writing a book and it's very union based about the ego and the ego's connection to God's source, infinite intelligence and us, and how that all ties together. And it just becomes so clear that it, it has to come back to us because that is the connection to Source. But we can do that by going to places. We can do that by taking action as far as going to church or maybe someone spiritually decides to do an ayahuasca trip or something. So, they're looking a little outside of themselves. But as long as you can take that experience and bring it back into you, that's when you really discover what Source is for you.
Nancy Rush:
I think too that I've noticed with the business clients that I work with that lack of that spiritual connection, really actively bringing it into the business, that's often the biggest roadblock that's in the way of their success that they desire. I should say that coupled with the inner work, because the inner work is so essential and you know, people think of the business as something separate from themselves and it is, but everything that's going on with you personally is directly reflected into the business too. Do you find that with your clients?
Kimberly Maska:
Well, actually I say they're not separate. You can't separate them. Because your consciousness is going to be reflected in the business and your business is going to reflect back to your consciousness. There's just no way around it. So, I always say that your higher self picked the business to help you expand your consciousness. So, that's why you're there.
Nancy Rush:
Ooh, I love that. That's cool.
Kimberly Maska:
Because it's going to happen whether we choose to go through the, we'll call it the individuation process, the consciousness expansion process. Whether we choose to do it or not, it's happening <laugh>. So, we can make the choice. And you know, some people crash into trees and kill people and that's how they go through their awakening and your higher self picks the business. So, I'm like, take the business <laugh>. That's the better way to go, even though it's tough. But take that business route and then use every lesson within that business to expand your consciousness because that's why it's there. And your business will expand as you expand. And then when you hit a limiting belief that won't let you cross a certain number for several years, that number for me was $200,000 a month. I don't know what it was. I hit $189,000 and $192,000 and whatever it was, but I would just not cross $200,000. And then I had to expand my consciousness to be able to cross that. And when that happened, I was like, oh, I see why I was holding myself back. Then I shifted my beliefs and I expanded my consciousness and prosperity flows in. So, that will happen throughout the business. I really just can't separate the two.
Nancy Rush:
<Laugh>. No, you can't. I have a business mentor who told me once that your business is a direct reflection of what's going on inside. And I was like, inside yourself? It seemed so obvious when she said it, but I had never really thought about it that way. I think she's a hundred percent right. I know that every time I've had a breakthrough it's because I was working on something for myself or healing something. So, you touched upon it a little bit, but I wonder if you would just kind of illuminate a little bit more, how can people align themselves with the Prosperity Vortex? I mean obviously cultivating this connection to Source. Are there other ways that they can kind of energetically align themselves with it?
Kimberly Maska:
Yeah, so it's multifaceted. It is the alignment with Source, which is the key piece. And then I talk a lot about your relationship with money. That's a big part of it. So, even though there's a lot of people with money who are not in the prosperity of vortex, because they have all sorts of other issues going on, you really can't be in the prosperity of vortex and be in scarcity. So, you have to have the abundance of money coming in whatever that looks like for you. So, building a relationship with money so that you have a different level of consciousness around money and prosperity is a big piece. And then also the health part. We have to take care of these bodies that we have. We have to be eating right and moving and all the things we have to do.
And discovering what eating right is for you. We have to be so careful with a trend of this, a trend of that and blah blah blah. It's like, well, what's right for you? I think all of our bodies are a bit different. Like for me personally, I've tried it all. I was like vegan for a few years. I was vegetarian, I was gluten-free. I'm like the whole nine yards. And now for me it's basically the carnivore process works geniusly. And I've never felt better, but that's me, you know? And everyone's like, but you're spiritual. You should be vegan. I'm like, I was so sick as a vegan, it was ridiculous. So, it's like discovering what works best for you so that you're healthy and then taking care of ourselves. I think that's one of the things that happens is Lightworkers step into their role with their spiritual business, they're sick.
They're really sick and usually people are sick because they're not living their purpose. That's another way for the universe to get our attention. So, if we can get more into flow of living our purpose and doing what we're supposed to be doing on this planet, then our bodies begin to heal themselves. So, it's this really interesting balance, but it's a challenge because you've got to balance the physicals, make sure you're eating right, take care of yourself, you've got the mental of making sure you're meditating, whatever that looks like for you. Doesn't have to be 20 minutes just sitting. It could be a walking meditation but getting your mind clear and at peace. And then building that relationship with money as well. And when you bring that all together, that is your connection with Source.
Nancy Rush:
I love that you brought up the self-care, because I see this a lot, especially with the entrepreneurs that I work with, is that they're so focused on the business that it's almost to the exclusion of eating. They may eat well, and they might make sure that they're hydrated, but they don't take time to work out or they don't take the downtime for the meditation to clear their minds because they're so focused on outwardly on everything, which also then they're not exactly cultivating the internal as well. So, I love that you bring this up because I really think it's an essential part and it's so easy for people to dismiss it until something radical happens and they do get sick.
Kimberly Maska:
The universe comes knocking on your door <laugh>.
Nancy Rush:
Literally! Well, this has been awesome Kimberly. Thank you so much. Would you take a couple minutes and share what your free gift is? It's a good one.
Kimberly Maska:
It's the Prosperity Vortex activation. So, this will help you get into the Prosperity Vortex. I break down some money beliefs, talk about the truth about money so that you can begin to see it differently. We've been so conditioned again to see money as this thing and it's not. So, I talk about that and give you some truths around it and some ways to align into what it means to be in the Prosperity Vortex.
Nancy Rush:
Oh, that sounds amazing. I'm going to have to check that out for sure. So, for my free gift, I'm teaching a three-day masterclass on the ancient art of the 9-Star Ki. And much to your point about Human Design, this is another system that helps people discover their inner blueprint, how they're wired, the patterns they might be embodying, things that might be challenging or limiting them. And then it also focuses on how we interact with other people. So, like a Human Design, if you're a generator versus a manifester or something like that. So, this gives you the clues to have greater harmony in your relationships and with also with clients too. It gives you a fantastic perspective there. So, we're going to be spending three days diving into that topic. And then of course there's going to be intuitive insights and coaching because that's just who I am. I can't not do it. <Laugh>. Well, fantastic. Thank you so much, Kimberly. I appreciate you and I can't wait to share this with our audience.
Kimberly Maska:
Thank you for having me again.
